Coming back to MM after 2 years away: Still problem w/Genres

LilJoe · Post by **LilJoe** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:36 pm

I'm coming back to MM after being away a few years - last version I used was 2.5.

I just installed v3 (seems very cool!), and I'm seeing the same critical problem appear that happened to me back in the 2.5 days. Specifically, I can't seem to get MP3s with genres that contain parenthesis to scan-in properly into MM3.

For example, my MP3s from the band "13th Floor Elevators" are tagged as genre "Rock (Psychedelic)". Note the parenthesis. In Windows explorer, I can clearly see "Rock (Psychedelic)" as the genre. Now, once I scan these MP3s into MM3, the songs only show genre "Rock" in MM3- in other words, the " (Psychedelic)" portion of the tag is gone. (Looking at the same file again in Windows, the parenthesis portion is still there.)

This problem is widespread - that is, what was "Jazz (Bop)" scans into MM3 only as "Jazz"; "World (Brazil)" now shows only as "World"; and so forth. Again, looking at these MP3s in Microsoft Windows clearly shows the full genre, parenthesis and all.

Any idea how to fix this? Nearly 3 years ago I posted about this same problem... weird that it's still happening. Perhaps it's something odd about my system? Fyi, I'm using a totally different PC these days - and the MP3 collection is on a different hard drive as well.

Best,
Joe

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:41 pm

i got the same thing with songs that had - in the titles,
monkey thought the split was for title and artist.

the , takes care of that. maybe making ( in to , would also help you.

me i just took all the ( ) out of the titles.

LilJoe · Post by **LilJoe** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:25 pm

Hmm, that's disappointing news, if you're right.

The ironic thing is - I added all of those genres with parens myself using a previous version of Media Monkey (2-3 years ago)! In fact, the ability to add genres that contain parens was a feature I myself requested for MM back in 2005 (and it was graciously added).

So you'd think Media Monkey would be able to read/scan it's own genre tags.

Joe
(who has about 100,000 songs in his collection, and doesn't want to retag them all)

Post by **Lowlander** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:32 pm

Could Infer Track property settings have to do something with this issue? I would guess so for RovingCowboy, but I don't know if it affects Genre's in anyway.

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:11 am

yes that is what it was for me lowlander, i thought that might be what is causing it for LilJoe also.

i turned mine to tags first..

REIKA · Post by **REIKA** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:41 am

The following are parts of the standard document of ID3V2.3.

References to the ID3v1 genres can be made by, as first byte, enter
"(" followed by a number from the genres list (section A.3.) and
ended with a ")" character. This is optionally followed by a
refinement, e.g. "(21)" or "(4)Eurodisco". Several references can be
made in the same frame, e.g. "(51)(39)". If the refinement should
begin with a "(" character it should be replaced with "((", e.g. "((I
can figure out any genre)" or "(55)((I think...)".

The same thing has happened to my PC about the genre.
When "(" was replaced with "((" referring to the above-mentioned document, the genre
was correctly read.
When the genre number is not used, "(" can have to be used freely.
I think , perhaps , this is a core of this issue.

Post by **jiri** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:35 pm

I can confirm that this is a bug, it will be fixed in the next release (which should be out very soon).

Jiri

LilJoe · Post by **LilJoe** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:48 pm

Quick service, as always! Thanks everyone for all the feedback. I'll hold off on using MM until the next update. Then I'll rescan the whole collection, and report back with results.

Happy New Year,
Joe