Classifying songs (not just by genre, mood)

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I really think MM (and every music player) could learn something from sites like last.fm and blogs in general.. by having instead of/in addition to somewhat convoluted predetermined settings for mood/occasion/genre etc, just have the ability to tag files with whatever terms you like.. 'rock' 'dining' 'ethereal' 'relaxing' 'songs chip would like' 'albums i need to listen to more' etc the way you can add keywords/tags to posts on a lot of forums and blogs now. Then if you could categorize them into categories into the tree at the side.. that would be all you need to do as far as classification goes.

[PetrCBR]

Look at scripting forum for MagicNodes script.

[Teknojnky]

You can use whatever you want in the classification nodes... If there is a type not there, you can simply type it into a track's classification properties and it will show up on the node tree.

Also, check out trimoto's genre finder script.. you can use it to pull tags from last.fm and put them into whichever fields you want.

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is it at all possible to have 2 moods for a song? or would you have to use a custom tag for that? and would that then mean there's a hard limit on the number of 'tags' for each track?

[Teknojnky]

As far as I know, you can have as many tags as you want, separate them by ; so a mood of Fast & Dance would be...

Fast;Dance

[spacefish]

Fast;Dance

Is it ';' or '; '? Or do both work? Note the space in the second example. I've been using '; ' in genre, artist, and album artist. It seems like it's working properly but I can't be sure. I've seen different discussions about this in different threads but I can't find it in any official documentation.

[Teknojnky]

Seems to work either way..

I just did a test file with

Occasion = 'Test1; Test2;Test3'

The track appeared in all 3 properly on the occasion node.

I remember the same thing happens in the composer node as well, so I assume the white space is ignored (but preserved) in all multi-item fields.

[spacefish]

Thanks, Tekno.

[cut-copy-paste]

awesome! i didn't know you could put multiple things in there.. but that's really all i needed

[Guest]

I'm unsure whether to put some extra classification info (i.e. e.g. like non-genre last.Fm tags) into a Custom field/tag or the occasion field/tag - or somewhere else.

Examples for non-genre/-mood tags are:

- fromPeter -- if Peter got a special/weird/similar/good music taste
- Trumpet -- as a trumpet fan I'd like to find all those tracks in Silje Nergaard's / Johann Sebastian Bach's / classical music featuring trumpets. Not a keyword for the artist tag, since I only add major soloists there (feat. trumpet: xy; musicbrainz syntax)
- Weird -- for crazy songs that usually get a low rating but are notable in a weird sort
- Hit/Pick -- for billboard hits, allmusicguide album or track picks, klassik.com editor's choice; they don't necessarily get a 5star rating from me.


The "occasion-field-solution" would be easiest, because MM provides the full functionality for adding new classes to the drop down menu and, more importantly, to the navigation tree, and the symbol-bar-classification-drop-down-list etc. But regarding the meaning of my classification, it would be a misuse, since these are no occasion tags.

Using one of the custom 1-5 fields would mean that I don't have this functionality. Although I might be able to reproduce at least the navigation tree issue using MagicNodes.

Any commentss on this? Anyone doing sth. like this? I think that, ideally, MM would provide an extra classification field with the usual functionality but without a special name like Mood, Occasion.

[Guest]

anyone on that...?

[Teknojnky]

As long as YOU know what the info means, then it does not matter what the type is..