Trying to follow iTunes file naming conventions

[McoreD]

Hi All,

I am having my second go at MediaMonkey. My goal is to enable MM3's auto-organizing features so that it works similar to iTunes "Organize Music folder" feature. By doing this I also want to maintain compatibility with iTunes so that both MM3 and iTunes organize the files identically. This time I am trying to be more careful before I end up messing things up.

iTunes replace any illegal character with a low line aka underscore. I have done the appropriate changes in the ini file to make this happen the same way:

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[FilenameMappings]
3A=5F
2A=5F
3F=
3E=5F
3C=5F
22=27
7C=5F
2F=5F
0D0A=
19=

For multi-disc albums, iTunes follows file name format:

%DiscNumber%-%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3

For single-disc albums, iTunes follows the file name format:

TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3

I was wondering how to configure this in MM3.

Thanks,
McoreD

[nohitter151]

Probably something like this:

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.\$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>)

[McoreD]

nohitter151,

Thank you! That seems very logical.

Is there <DiscCount> ?

Looks like what's most appropriate is

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$If(<DiscCount>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>,<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>)

The reason why I say DiscCount is what we need is because in iTunes

For a 2 disc album, the file name would be something like 1-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3 not 01-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3


Edit:

Looking at http://www.mediamonkey.com/sw/webhelp/f ... ormats.htm I was wondering how to retrieve the "type" or in other words the extension of the audio file, mp3 or flac.

So I could do something like this:

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.\$If(<Type>=="flac",$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>,<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>),$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>))

Thanks,
McoreD

[nohitter151]

nohitter151,

Thank you! That seems very logical.

Is there <DiscCount> ?

Looks like what's most appropriate is

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$If(<DiscCount>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>,<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>)

The reason why I say DiscCount is what we need is because in iTunes

For a 2 disc album, the file name would be something like 1-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3 not 01-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3

Just change it to

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.\$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>)

Edit:

Looking at http://www.mediamonkey.com/sw/webhelp/f ... ormats.htm I was wondering how to retrieve the "type" or in other words the extension of the audio file, mp3 or flac.

So I could do something like this:

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.\$If(<Type>=="flac",$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>,<Track#:2> - <Artist> - <Title>),$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>))

Thanks,
McoreD

Ok, you can retrieve the type of file, but what you want to do with it? You can use <Extension>, but then what, store in "FLAC" or "mp3" folders?

[McoreD]

nohitter,

Sorry I gave the wrong reason for why need DiscCount. Consider the following code:

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    .\$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>)

or even

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    .\$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#:2>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>)

The above will not generate file names like this:

1-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3

It will only include DiscNumber if the DiscNumber is greater than 1. So for a two-disc album, you will have file names like this:

For disc 1:

03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3

For disc 2:

2-07 Belfast.mp3

In iTunes, if the DiscCount is greater than 1, i.e. a multi-disc album, then all the tracks in the album will have the DiscCount:

Disc 1:

1-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3

Disc 2:

2-07 Belfast.mp3

If the DiscCount is 1, i.e. single disc album, then all the tracks will have the following format:

03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3

So I was wondering how do we use DiscCount to implement this.

Thanks,
McoreD

[Lowlander]

If you always want disc# if it has a value you can use

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$If(<Disc#>,<Disc#>-,)<Track#:2> <Title>

instead of

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$If(<Disc#>>1,<Disc#>-<Track#:2> <Title>,<Track#:2> <Title>)

[nohitter151]

Since there is no 'Disc count' field in MM, there is no <DiscCount> mask.

[Lowlander]

Since there is no 'Disc count' field in MM, there is no <DiscCount> mask.

Which means that the suggestions above work as long as the disc# field is empty on single disc albums.

[McoreD]

Guys,

Wow, so there is no way to expose the DiscCount value lets say in TPOS for MP3.

TPOS
The 'Part of a set' frame is a numeric string that describes which
part of a set the audio came from. This frame is used if the source
described in the "TALB" frame is divided into several mediums, e.g. a
double CD. The value MAY be extended with a "/" character and a
numeric string containing the total number of parts in the set. E.g.
"1/2".

That makes it impossible to achieve the above task through a formatting code.

All I wanted was

%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3 for single disc albums
%DiscNumber%-%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3 for multi disc albums

[nohitter151]

Guys,

Wow, so there is no way to expose the DiscCount value lets say in TPOS for MP3.

TPOS
The 'Part of a set' frame is a numeric string that describes which
part of a set the audio came from. This frame is used if the source
described in the "TALB" frame is divided into several mediums, e.g. a
double CD. The value MAY be extended with a "/" character and a
numeric string containing the total number of parts in the set. E.g.
"1/2".

That makes it impossible to achieve the above task through a formatting code.

All I wanted was

%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3 for single disc albums
%DiscNumber%-%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3 for multi disc albums

Right, MM doesn't read any total disc field (or total track, for that matter).

[McoreD]

Hi All,

I am having a 3rd go at this using the recently released MM 3.2 - very impressive enhancements, good work!

Just to recap the discussion above, let me summarize the iTunes file naming behavior for single-disc and multi-disc albums. This is exactly what I want to achieve using MM so I can replace iTunes.

For single-disc albums:

%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3
e.g. 03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3 (Note: the files do not have disc number)

For multi-disc albums:

%DiscNumber%-%TrackNumber% %Name%.mp3
e.g.
1-03 Rivers of Babylon.mp3 (for tracks in disc 1)
2-07 Belfast.mp3 (for tracks in disc 2)

So basically, I do not want Disc Count in single-disc albums and I want Disc Count in multi-disc albums. I was wondering how can I achieve this?

Thanks,
McoreD

[nohitter151]

So basically, I do not want Disc Count in single-disc albums and I want Disc Count in multi-disc albums. I was wondering how can I achieve this?

Since MM doesn't store any information about total disc number there isn't a single mask that can achieve this.

This is about as close as you can come, assuming that for single disc albums you don't have any value stored for disc number.

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$If(<Disc#>,<Disc#>-,)<Track#:2> <Title>

[McoreD]

So basically, I do not want Disc Count in single-disc albums and I want Disc Count in multi-disc albums. I was wondering how can I achieve this?

Since MM doesn't store any information about total disc number there isn't a single mask that can achieve this.

This is about as close as you can come, assuming that for single disc albums you don't have any value stored for disc number.

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$If(<Disc#>,<Disc#>-,)<Track#:2> <Title>

Thanks for the quick reply nohitter151. The situation is that I do have the Disc Number stored as standard for single-disc albums which is going to break this. I will have another go when MM reaches version 4 may be?

Thanks, McoreD.