Quick album art scrolling

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ashenkin
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Quick album art scrolling

Post by ashenkin »

Hi There,

This is an issue with a number of windows apps that deal with thumbnails: when you scroll through lists of them, it takes a while to refresh the new thumbnails as they come into view. This is an issue in Adobe Photoshop Elements Organizer also, for example. In MM, if you view your albums in the main screen with the "Album Art" view, and scroll through them, the album art is slow to pop up as albums come into view.

While some apps have this problem, others have somehow managed to resolve it. Picasa comes to mind as one example - as you scroll through the thumbnails, there's no noticeable lag as thumbnails come into view.

I don't know what the technical resolution would be - some sort of enhanced caching? Not sure. But this feature would make it much more enjoyable traversing one's library.

Anyone agree? Disagree? Have a different perspective?

Thanks,
Allie
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by Lowlander »

MediaMonkey 3.1 will have some improvements in the Album Art views. I don't know though if it affects the loading of precached files.
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by wdpaynter »

I agree that this needs to be looked at.

I have MM 3.1 installed on (1) of my computers and, though at first, I thought it was working better, it appears that this is not the case. (May be my install only).

Having smooth scrolling is very important to me. I believe that this issue has been raised as part of the Mantis Tracking system regarding a "Cover Flow" type browsing http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=3636

Although the cache thing is different, maybe this can also address caching of art in AA & AA + Details views??
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by Lowlander »

Actually it's this issue: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5027.

If you have issues relating to this change please do report them in the Beta forum so it can be further improved.
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by wdpaynter »

Thanks Lowlander!!
Systems on my LAN:
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Living Room - HP Slimline AMD Phenom 9100e Quad Core 1.8GHz Processor - Windows Vista 64bit SP2 - 4GB RAM - 500GB HDD
Master Bedroom - HP Slimline AMD Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz Processor - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 500GB HDD
Garage - HP Desktop - Windows XP Pro SP3 - 512MB RAM - 500GB HDD
Laptop - HP AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile 1.6 GHz Processor - Windows XP Pro SP3 - 896MB RAM - 65GB HDD
Netbook - Asus EEE Pc - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 160GB HDD
Sway

Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by Sway »

So am I correct in concluding that this 'bug' should be fixed now? Cuz I'm still experiencing this (very annoying) issue.

Is there a configuration I'm overlooking or something? I'm using build 3.2.0.1294...

Thanks!
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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Sway wrote:So am I correct in concluding that this 'bug' should be fixed now? Cuz I'm still experiencing this (very annoying) issue.

Is there a configuration I'm overlooking or something? I'm using build 3.2.0.1294...

Thanks!
Yes, should be fixed as of the current build.
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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nohitter151 wrote:
Sway wrote:So am I correct in concluding that this 'bug' should be fixed now? Cuz I'm still experiencing this (very annoying) issue.

Is there a configuration I'm overlooking or something? I'm using build 3.2.0.1294...

Thanks!
Yes, should be fixed as of the current build.
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Ok, so then why am I still experiencing the problem?
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by Sway »

Do I need another build? I don't understand why I'm still having this problem...

Anybody know?
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by wdpaynter »

I too, am still experiencing this issue. I use Album Art+ Details, and when I have more than a few albums for an Artist, when I scroll down it takes a few seconds for each Album Cover to display and the last one will not display until I let go of the mouse button. If I have a lot of albums and scroll down quickly, albums in the middle are not "populated". It always requires bringing an album in to view and stopping shortly to allow the art to display.

It used to be (quite a few releases ago) that when you clicked on an artist (or any node) in the tree, all of the album art "populated" in the AA+Details window, so when you scrolled down, all the art was already there.

I really wish that this ability would return because it looks really sloppy the way it currently works.

Anyway this can be fixed??
Thanks
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Master Bedroom - HP Slimline AMD Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz Processor - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 500GB HDD
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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wdpaynter wrote:I too, am still experiencing this issue. I use Album Art+ Details, and when I have more than a few albums for an Artist, when I scroll down it takes a few seconds for each Album Cover to display and the last one will not display until I let go of the mouse button. If I have a lot of albums and scroll down quickly, albums in the middle are not "populated". It always requires bringing an album in to view and stopping shortly to allow the art to display.
That's the same for me, I think it is the expected behavior.
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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Am I, or are we, alone in preferring this not be the expected behavior?

I am 100% certain that it was not always this way. I seem to remember discussing this in a thread a year or two back. And I believe then there was a major update to MM, and the cache method changed, resulting in the current behavior. I will search for this when I get time.

Can anything be done to "fix" the cacheing method?
Thanks
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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wdpaynter wrote:Am I, or are we, alone in preferring this not be the expected behavior?
Of course it isn't preferred. But its worth knowing that this isn't necessarily a bug with only some people's systems, and that it's like this for everyone. And its really not that bad to just let go of the scroll bar... just saying... :wink:
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

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nohitter (and others) - you have been more than helpful on this an many other subjects throughout the years

I do not want my comments to be viewed as complaining, rather features of MM I'd like to see changed/improved. I certainly do not think that letting go of the scroll bar is a big deal. I just would prefer it work differently.

I guess a little frustration exists, in that it did not always function this way. Though, I do realize that this behavior is likely the result of application-wide improvements, and this is the "collateral damage". Also, I use MM the most on my living room HTPC on a large screen, often in social situations. This behavior is amplified in this setting, and has even been pointed out by several people that have no experience with MM.

I am not intelligent enough to understand how/why the functionality of the cacheing changed, I would just like to see it work the way it used to. I doubt that it is impossible to accomplish, but may be extremely difficult. I would like to know if it can or will be fixed.

Thanks
BP
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Living Room - HP Slimline AMD Phenom 9100e Quad Core 1.8GHz Processor - Windows Vista 64bit SP2 - 4GB RAM - 500GB HDD
Master Bedroom - HP Slimline AMD Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz Processor - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 500GB HDD
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Laptop - HP AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile 1.6 GHz Processor - Windows XP Pro SP3 - 896MB RAM - 65GB HDD
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Re: Quick album art scrolling

Post by wdpaynter »

An additional note (as if I didn't ramble enough already)

I have tried other similar programs to MM that have a similar layout/interface and the cache thingy works the way I would like and the way MM used to

I am not suggesting that MM is inferior or anything of the sort, rather that this is possible, and maybe it can be looked at
Systems on my LAN:
Office - HP Desktop - Windows 7 - 2GB RAM - 3.5TB HDD (Music) - 10.5TB HDD (Movies)
Living Room - HP Slimline AMD Phenom 9100e Quad Core 1.8GHz Processor - Windows Vista 64bit SP2 - 4GB RAM - 500GB HDD
Master Bedroom - HP Slimline AMD Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz Processor - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 500GB HDD
Garage - HP Desktop - Windows XP Pro SP3 - 512MB RAM - 500GB HDD
Laptop - HP AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile 1.6 GHz Processor - Windows XP Pro SP3 - 896MB RAM - 65GB HDD
Netbook - Asus EEE Pc - Windows 7 32bit - 2GB RAM - 160GB HDD
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