Small things that are missing [#15881][#16424]

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Small things that are missing [#15881][#16424]

Post by Barry4679 »

1: Extensions

There doesn't seem to be any way to deactivate or delete an MM5 extension

2. Hotkeys

The config at Tools|Options|General|Hotkeys seem to be in random sequence.
It would be good to be able toggle sort sequence:
  • sort by action, so for example all the Edit menu hotkeys are together in a group
  • sort by Hotkey ... so can find an available unused hotkey combo
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Re: Small things that are missing

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One additional small thing that's missing is the "File Monitor" link inside the Tools>Options>Library menu. It took me a long time to figure out how to get back to the "Add/rescan folders" menu on MM5, because I was used to going through that method.
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Re: Small things that are missing

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1) Tools > Extensions allows you to uninstall Extensions.

2) https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16424
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Lowlander wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:33 am 1) Tools > Extensions allows you to uninstall Extensions.
Oh, I now see the trash can that escaped my attention before ... thankfully I saw it just before pressing Send to my sarcastic response. :D

After deleting a couple of extensions, and closing the Extensions window I get this dbox,

It is confusing. I have already processed the deletion, and closed the Extensions dbox. What is the "this" that it is referring to? ... Nothing seems to change whether i answer Yes or No.
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That prompt also comes up when changing a skin. I don't really know exactly what it means. Maybe it means all background processes?
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drakinite wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:52 am That prompt also comes up when changing a skin. I don't really know exactly what it means. Maybe it means all background processes?
Oh, thanks, I didn't remember|notice that.
It would be good if they said what the "this" was. ... In my case it come after I thought I had finished updating.
And it not clear whether it is a problem to "terminate all processes" or what my alternatives are? ... ie. if I answered NO, would they do the update at next reboot?
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Re: Small things that are missing

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In the situation where you are changing a skin, if you press no it won't switch skins. But I don't know what happens if you're deleting extensions. Maybe it has to reload everything when you change the list of extensions?
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Yes, if you install/unistall an extension (or change a skin or layout) then MM5 needs to reload all *.js/*.html files, because any skin or addon can change code in any JS/HTML file (using its own unitname_add.js). And reloading all js/html results in terminating current processes.
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Ludek wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:22 am Yes, if you install/unistall an extension (or change a skin or layout) then MM5 needs to reload all *.js/*.html files, because any skin or addon can change code in any JS/HTML file (using its own unitname_add.js). And reloading all js/html results in terminating current processes.
OK, but the minimalist contents of the dbox does not help me to answer the question you are asking ... it needs to contain advice:
  • are there any consequences of "terminating all active processes"?
  • do I have another option? ... ie. will you perform action at next restart, or will you ignore request?
It is like you left me some fluid in a drinking glass, and I don't know whether it is Novichok or vitamin D supplement.
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Is it necessary though to terminate processes for this change? Aren't they running at a lower level?
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Re: Small things that are missing

Post by Ludek »

Actually seeing that this kind of info/warning has been added by Petr in course of https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15881
Namely because of the original issue of losing work in non-modal auto-tag dialog window when switching skin.

You seem to be true that the wording of the warning isn't clear though.
Re-opened the issue for a better wording.
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