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Re: Automatic Type Tagging

by Lowlander » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:51 pm

The Type field is an internal MediaMonkey database field and which ever value shown in MediaMonkey doesn't affect other applications. You can change Type in the Properties window (to one of the predefined Types, no custom Types allowed).

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by AtJoeH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:10 pm

My issue is that Video tag goes into iTunes as "Home Video" and not as "Movie" - I would love to figure out how to edit this field in MM so that they are considered "Movies" when imported into iTunes. Any suggestions?

Re: Automatic Type Tagging

by AtJoeH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:08 pm

My issue is that Video tag goes into iTunes as "Home Video" and not as "Movie" - I would love to figure out how to edit this field in MM.

Re: Automatic Type Tagging

by ginjaninja » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:27 am

Thanks for confirmation,
will use path criteria on collection

Re: Automatic Type Tagging

by Lowlander » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:38 am

It has already been discussed to add customization to Type, both in available Types as well as in how it is assigned. However as Type is merely a tag with a value you can use any other tag to accomplish exactly the same thing in the same way. So in Collections you can use Path, Genre, a Classification tag a Custom tag, etc. to make your own rules and it works exactly as Type does.

In other words, instead of being able to create a rule to determine Type to add to Collection you can add the same rule directly to a Collection.

Automatic Type Tagging

by ginjaninja » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:36 am

I am keen to categorise my library into collections / files against their type (TV/Movies/Music etc) to aid presentation to DLNA clients.

In particular I would like a movies collection and a tv collection.
Now i can do this manually by setting a criteria on the collection eg has \TV\ or \Movies\ in path, but i see that MM has a more succinct intention on how this is done using 'type'.
I notice there is no type for movie but there is for tv.
I notice type can not be assigned against the folder you import for monitoring.
And the default TV collection filters on 'type=tv'.

I notice that
Video files are added as Type=Video except
they're added as 'Video Podcast' if Genre contains 'Podcast'
they're added as 'TV' if Genre contains 'TV Show', 'TV Series' or 'Television'
they're added as 'Music Video' if Genre contains 'Music Video'

So MM does intend to auto assign type by means of embedded tag.

Now my music is perfectly tagged with embedded data ie id3tags...but i am not familiar with the subject of video file tagging.
Is MM implying that ALL video containers, whether they be (eg) avi, mp4, mkv, vob, .divx can be tagged like mp3s can?
Should i be at all worried for my content, changing the content (embedding tags) if this possible?

Otherwise, without embedding tags into video files is there any other way to automatically set 'type' on files so they can be automatically segregated into collections and views.
Should i even care about the 'type' tag for now, as i wont get it to work for movies in any case (there is no 'movie' type)?
I could always manually select all the tv files and set their' type'...but i think i would have to keep repeating this. Alternatively i could use a filesystem criteria on my own collections (and not worry about type).

Could a knowledgeable user give me some general good practise guidance/options on how MM intends users to present tv and movies separately to users - given the comments above? Perhaps some real world experience on how you manage your TV and Movie collections/presentation.

thanks

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by nohitter151 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:20 pm

Lowlander wrote:No, home movies, clips would have the same requirements as TV as they're short videos, whereas Movies are very different as they're of long length. Actually most of my home movies are a lot shorter than TV shows, which in themselves are shorted than Movies, this is why they are different and why it would be good that MediaMonkey treats them differently.
Agree to disagree, I guess.

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by Lowlander » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:06 pm

No, home movies, clips would have the same requirements as TV as they're short videos, whereas Movies are very different as they're of long length. Actually most of my home movies are a lot shorter than TV shows, which in themselves are shorted than Movies, this is why they are different and why it would be good that MediaMonkey treats them differently.

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by nohitter151 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:56 pm

Lowlander wrote:If TV is a category Movies should be too. Actual movies and clips and home movies are different things as different as TV and Videos. As long as custom Types isn't supported I think it should be added. The fact that you can create Collections is missing the point as in that case the whole Type feature can be removed. If there is a need to separate TV there is a need to separate Movies.
Not really. The only thing that differentiates Types from collections is the playback rules and summaries. I could see why you'd want different playback rules for TV vs. other videos (I imagine for both home videos and feature-length movies you'd want to clear the NP list and play only the clicked video). But for TV, you may want to add all selected videos (as they are all from the same show/season/etc.).

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by Lowlander » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:48 pm

If TV is a category Movies should be too. Actual movies and clips and home movies are different things as different as TV and Videos. As long as custom Types isn't supported I think it should be added. The fact that you can create Collections is missing the point as in that case the whole Type feature can be removed. If there is a need to separate TV there is a need to separate Movies.

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by nohitter151 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:14 pm

ACraigL wrote:For me, this is about getting content to a device in a logical way. If I want 5 TV shows, 3 movies, and all my home videos, I should be able to do that. Not possible if everything is categorized 'video'. Besides, this is already supported; we're just asking for another subcategory in the existing list.

Curious as to why there is objection to this?
That is possible already. You can create custom collections that contain whatever you want (collections do not have to be based on 'Type' only).

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by ACraigL » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:07 pm

For me, this is about getting content to a device in a logical way. If I want 5 TV shows, 3 movies, and all my home videos, I should be able to do that. Not possible if everything is categorized 'video'. Besides, this is already supported; we're just asking for another subcategory in the existing list.

Curious as to why there is objection to this?

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by nohitter151 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:58 pm

Lowlander wrote:No Video would be clips and home movies. Otherwise TV can be removed as it's video too.
Well if anything then maybe "Video" should be changed in name to "Movies". Why should "Movies" and "clips and home movies" have different collection types when you can just create your own custom collections?

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories [#7602]

by Lowlander » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:54 pm

No Video would be clips and home movies. Otherwise TV can be removed as it's video too.

Re: MM4 Feature Suggestion: Video Categories

by nohitter151 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:45 pm

Lowlander wrote:I'd like to see Movie as a category as well. Some will probably argue that Anime is it's own video category as well.
Why? Anime is just a subset of TV (basically a TV genre). And I thought Video type = Movie, essentially.

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