MM freezing during sync - Ipod Classic 160

[Your Dumb]

turn uac off and run as admin ...... might hang from time to time after that but it will work if you let it do its thing and not close or turn off the pc.

[kirikou39]

Hi,

It seems that this problem hasn't been resolved yet but I think I've found a way around.

When your MM freezes for whatever reason while you're syncing (I'm using auto-synchronisation usually), just quit MM anyway you can. For me my library was corrupt after that everytime and no songs were recognized. Just restart MM afterwards, and just sync 2 songs for example to your iPod. For whatever reasons, your library will be up & running again...

[qrobur]

I have a variant of this problem. With a 35K+ library of tracks I need to compress them to 128Kbps during synchronisation to my 160GB iPod Classic. Currently I might get 1,000 tracks transferred and then MM crashes - that is, really crashes as in exits. It leaves behind a 'decoder.exe' process.

Currently I have to rebuild the database after each crash, which means a number of tracks are then suggested for removal when I start the synchronisation again. This is obviously frustrating and it would be great if somebody could throw some light on the problem.

[gm]

I have similar problem with ipod classic 80gb. Think in my case it may be due to usb power issue and how MM deals with a sudden break in connectivity with the ipod. When I connect my ipod sometimes MM or Winamp doesn't recognise it until after a few minutes when the ipod batteries become sufficiently charged. If I start a synch operation that involves large transfer of files the synch process may terminate if the ipod battery charge circuit becomes active pulling down the usb voltage from the pc port. When this happens I lose track listing on the ipod though files are still present. The track listing can be restoredby doing a database rebuild. If the batteries in the ipod are fully charged prior to synch operation then no problems so far. I suppose a powered usb hub might be solution for me or always to ensure the ipod is fully charged prior to syching but I also wonder if MM could better handle a sudden drop in line connectivity to the ipod?

[qrobur2]

I still have this problem - that is, the autosync crashing at various points during the on-the-fly conversion and synchronisation of 36K+ tracks to my iPod classic. It did this at anything between a few hundred tracks and several thousand tracks. However, it never got anywhere near the full 36K and MM is next to useless for maintaining this iPod because after numerous autosyncs I seem to be left with database corruptions.

I was able to sync the iPod with all 36K tracks using foobar2000 - but it took 8 days! However, it's curious that the latter program can do what MM can't.

I have two questions:

1. Can I "fool" MM into accepting the tracks put on the device by foobar2000 as its own work? If I try to autosync now MM wants to either wipe them off or append the 36K tracks again.
2. What is used to do the autosyncing and can it be updated or replaced?

[nohitter151]

I still have this problem - that is, the autosync crashing at various points during the on-the-fly conversion and synchronisation of 36K+ tracks to my iPod classic. It did this at anything between a few hundred tracks and several thousand tracks. However, it never got anywhere near the full 36K and MM is next to useless for maintaining this iPod because after numerous autosyncs I seem to be left with database corruptions.

I was able to sync the iPod with all 36K tracks using foobar2000 - but it took 8 days! However, it's curious that the latter program can do what MM can't.

I have two questions:

1. Can I "fool" MM into accepting the tracks put on the device by foobar2000 as its own work? If I try to autosync now MM wants to either wipe them off or append the 36K tracks again.
2. What is used to do the autosyncing and can it be updated or replaced?

1. No
2. What is used? Not sure what you mean there.

[qrobur2]

Thanks for the reply, nohitter151.

So, the list of what is synchronised to a device is not maintained in a table to which data could be appended by means of an SQL query? Pity.

Regarding the second question, I'm wondering if the problem is a corrupt component in the conversion or transfer process that could be replaced. If foobar2000 (which I pointed at the Lame encoder for the 'on-the-fly' conversion) can successfully transfer, albeit very slowly, 36K files in principle so should MM because it doesn't appear to be a problem with the iPod in question. The implication is that there's a defect in the MM system somewhere and it would be worth replacing any physical items (dll files? encoders?) to see if that cures the problem.

[nohitter151]

Thanks for the reply, nohitter151.

So, the list of what is synchronised to a device is not maintained in a table to which data could be appended by means of an SQL query? Pity.

Regarding the second question, I'm wondering if the problem is a corrupt component in the conversion or transfer process that could be replaced. If foobar2000 (which I pointed at the Lame encoder for the 'on-the-fly' conversion) can successfully transfer, albeit very slowly, 36K files in principle so should MM because it doesn't appear to be a problem with the iPod in question. The implication is that there's a defect in the MM system somewhere and it would be worth replacing any physical items (dll files? encoders?) to see if that cures the problem.

1. Well, yes, the list of synced files is saved to the DB. But I don't know where exactly.

2. MM uses the LAME encoder. As of version MM version 3.2.5, it uses LAME 3.98.2. You can replace it. I believe it's at C:\Program Files\MediaMonkey\ folder.

[qrobur2]

Ah ha. I'll have a poke about in the tables then. DBs are what I do for a living.

I'll also replace the Lame encoder when I'm finished another test (this time I'm syncing the same 36K tracks to an Archos 48 to see if that falls over or not).

Thanks, nohitter151.

[$ir-Loin]

So, since this post is still active, I'll add my experience. I too have a huge library ~24,000 songs with a 160 gb. After searching forum after forum, I found one that inferred the errors were due to corrupt files. A program called CDCheck was recommended. It's available with a 30-day trial period. I downloaded it and there's 5.5 hours left of a 101 hour scan hash check of every file. It says it's scanning 59,000 files, which means a lot of duplicates were created. I'm optimistic this will work because thus far it found 41 errors, 1,412 warnings, and 47 "other". I'm not sure what each means just yet, but it will allow me to export as a CSV when I'm done where I hope it gives me some more info. I'm wondering if the hangs/crash comes about when MM tries to sync one of these files.

[Loquah]

$ir-Loin, did you manage to solve the issue with CDCheck?

I'm having the same troubles now with MM4 and would love a simple solution if such a thing exists!

[Jon EP]

EDIT: upgraded to portable MM4 and am now going to try syncing it...


I just bought an Ipod Classic 160 GB when my old 80 GB classic finally died. The 80 GB classic worked like a champ with Media Monkey, and I have been an evangelist for ages. But now I can't load my music to the ipod -- MM 3.2.1.1297 crashes midway through the sync each time. I'm only trying to sync a subset of my collection, probably less than 90 GB -- my setting is to autosync podcasts plus two playlists only.

I see that people using MM 4 are experiencing the same problem, so I assume that, contrary to the advice on another thread, upgrading to MM4 is not the answer.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a real fix for this yet -- the issue seems to have been around for years.

NoHitter151 -- you've always had answers for these things in the past, but it doesn't seem like there's been resolution to this problem -- any news? Has the problem been identified and fixed for MM 4?

Thanks very much .

Jon EP (a loyal and ardent MM enthusiast)

[Jon EP]

OK, I think that upgrading to MM4 and using the Codec Pack has solved my problem. I'm 3000 files through an 8000 file sync, with no problems so far...

Edit: confirmed, upgrading to MM4 has worked for me. Successfully synced the same 8000 files to the new iPod.