Converting Flac or Ogg files with album art to Ipod

Dieter · Post by **Dieter** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:17 pm

I have just bought a new Ipod Video Version 5.5 80 GB and wanted to synchronize my music with MM.

Most of my music are flac or ogg files. All my cover art art stored in the respective album art folder as jpg-files since storing in tag is no possible with flac or ogg files. I have set MM to convert all files to mp3 when synchronizing to the Ipod.

When synchronizing my music to the Ipod no album art is shown on the Ipod. I tried to find a solution in the forum and found some post that say that external album art is not automatically stored in the tags of the created mp3 files and some say it is. For me it does not work. Should that work or is this not supported?

I tried some original mp3 files and it seems that after synchronizing them to the Ipod album art is only shown for those file which had the art embedded in the tags. For the mp3 files which have only stored the jpg-files and embedde a link only, the album art is not shown on the Ipod.

Another question is: I have set for all my files replaygain values. After synchronizing the created mp3 files do not show a replay gain value in MM (when I browse the Ipod). Are the replay gain values converted to the Ipod's corresponding sound check values (and only not shown in MM)?

At the moment I switched back to Itunes since no album art is shown on the Ipod when using MM but I would really like to use MM for that. Any help would be very appreciated!

Dieter

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:55 pm

don't know about flac but the ogg files wont save art to tags they just link to the image on the computer.

Dieter · Post by **Dieter** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:53 am

Yes, that's the same with flac files. But the question is what does MM when it converts these files to mp3-files during synchronization with the Ipod. Does it automatically embed the album art in the tags of the created mp3-files? I have the impression that on the Ipod album art is only shown if it is embedded in the tags of the mp3 files (or is that incorrect?).

Dieter

Post by **Lowlander** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:54 am

I don't think that MediaMonkey embeds album art when converting to MP3.

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:05 pm

i know mm embeds the album art to the wma files when you convert to them.

but not sure about mp3 since i don't have lic. version of media monkey i never tried to do that route.

Dieter · Post by **Dieter** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:45 pm

Lowlander wrote:I don't think that MediaMonkey embeds album art when converting to MP3.

If it doesn't how should it replace iTunes? I cannot embed album art manually for more than 8000 songs after MM converted them.

Isn't there anybody who KNOWS if this should work automatically (at least Jiri should know I guess)? I would really appreciate a clear positive or negative statement to know if it is worth to invest more time or not.

Dieter

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:34 am

convert one song with album art either in the tag or conneted to the song by a link.

then take that one song and open it in the wmp and tell the wmp to show album art. if it is in the tag then it will show up. if not then it wont.

that is how i found out it embeds them in the wma files.

Post by **Lowlander** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:00 am

Automation can be achieved by scripts. There is an album art manipulation script but I think it batch converts from embedded to external which is the wrong way around.

wolfzell · Post by **wolfzell** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:26 pm

Have a look at the album art tagger script from trixmoto. It does what you need.

I converted more than 12.000 flac files to mp3 and then I embedded all the album art to the mp3 files automatically. Of course for this function the filenames of the art files have to be correct, but I guess you can export them first from the script with the same mask then it will fit (I named the files manually when I scanned them the way I needed them).

Now I load my iPod from the MP3 library and all album art is there.

bye
Wolfgang

Dieter · Post by **Dieter** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:06 am

wolfzell wrote:Have a look at the album art tagger script from trixmoto. It does what you need.

I converted more than 12.000 flac files to mp3 and then I embedded all the album art to the mp3 files automatically. Of course for this function the filenames of the art files have to be correct, but I guess you can export them first from the script with the same mask then it will fit (I named the files manually when I scanned them the way I needed them).

Now I load my iPod from the MP3 library and all album art is there.

bye
Wolfgang

I understand that you first converted your flac files to mp3 files on a different plart of your hard drive using the converting tool of MM. After embedding all art using trixmoto's script you loaded the mp3 files to your Ipod.

Howeve, what I want to do is to use the synchronize function of MM for converting and loading the file in one step. Otherwise I can keep iTunes for synchronization.
And I do not have a certain naming scheme for my art files, so it will be hard to find a mask fitting to all files (I cannot export first since I don't have embedded them at the moment).

It should be easy for MM to embed the art during synchronization since all information is available and this would really be an automatic procedure.

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:53 am

if media monkey will convert to mp3 before it puts it on the ipod then convert the one song like i suggested and open it in wmp to check for the album art.

if monkey converts the song to mp3 as it loads to the ipod then you do the one song and check on the ipod for the artwork,

if not there then remove it from the ipod and check in wmp to see if the art is there but in a tag the ipod does not see?

i don't see why you did not do one test file first?

wolfzell · Post by **wolfzell** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:51 am

Dieter wrote:I understand that you first converted your flac files to mp3 files on a different plart of your hard drive using the converting tool of MM. After embedding all art using trixmoto's script you loaded the mp3 files to your Ipod.

Right.

Howeve, what I want to do is to use the synchronize function of MM for converting and loading the file in one step. Otherwise I can keep iTunes for synchronization.

That's how I wanted to do it in the first place. But with a 8GB iPod nano, the converting takes several hours until the device is loaded. I do not want to wait that long and it is keeping my computer too busy. That's why I converted all files (hard disk space is cheap nowadays...) and now I am using the converted files to feed the iPod.

Of course I could use iTunes then, but why should I? MediaMonkey does a much better job for me and I do not want to run several programs, when one alone can solve my problems.

bye
Wolfgang