Loud pop problem with WAV but not Flac tracks

bkkmd · Post by **bkkmd** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:49 am

I use MM to rip my CD. Ripping to flac is perfectly fine but when I try to rip in wav, I get this
loud pop (more like static pop or when a CD player skips on a badly scratch disc, not window popping sound) at the end of every track. When I rip
the same CD in flac, there is no pop sound at all! I use external USB2 CD/DVD drive.

Thanks for any suggestion on how to fix this problem.

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:00 am

find updated drivers for usb. are you using versions 1 or 2 or is 3 already released? but get 2 its faster then 1.

wav is not compressed flac is. so the data is not getting to the computer as fast as it needs too and the cpu is jumping in to the song after it started.. this could also be caused by a small system cache. you can try making your page file larger first before doing the updating?

bkkmd · Post by **bkkmd** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:02 am

Thanks for your help. May be I misread your post or did not make myself very clear.
I am using USB2 driver. The loud pop occurs when I play back wav track from my
hard drive (internal SATAII) after ripping it with my external USB2 CD/DVD driver.
I assume that it should not have anything to do with USB2 driver as it should have
problem with I rip in both flac and wav since the CD driver is reading and passing along
the same information in either cases.

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:16 pm

then it must be the small cache on your system. as i said the wav is uncompressed so that will take more room in the cache file, then the flac format will.

try doing the second thought i said make your page file larger.

and no you said the usb2 in your first post i just read past it and when i was thinking of what to do or try to do i forgot you said it.

bkkmd · Post by **bkkmd** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:18 am

I am not quite sure what you mean by "making page file larger"
I tried playing with buffer ahead and prebuffer a bit. That seems to eliminate
popping sound on some tracks but not all.

Well... I am going away for a week and will come back and see what else I can try
to eliminate the problem.

Thanks for your help

mikeph · Post by **mikeph** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:38 am

I know what "bkkmd" is talking about but not the solution. The noise is digital data about the track, written by MediaMonkey at the end of the Wave file when the User changes track information. I read something somewhere on the MediaMonkey site about a solution but was in a hurry and did not record it - haven't found it since.
I'd appreciate someone posting the solution. Regards

Post by **Lowlander** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:34 am

See: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=40990

Do you have similar encoded WAV files?

mikeph · Post by **mikeph** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:12 am

I record 16 bit 44kHz Wave files, and........
Just noticed that when I'm running other programs (like Excel or Access), Wave files that don't have the digital data at the end also sometimes "pop". To my ear, the same sound but on examination of the file with NGWave, no annoying data at the end. Seems to be related to memory usage. Can't say if its related to the latest update - don't recall it happening before 3.1.0.1256. The digital data problem surfaced with version 3.0.4.1185 about August 2008 when I updated some track listings. And then, every track that popped had the extra data which is not the case now.
Regards

Post by **Lowlander** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:03 am

I would contact support on this issue so you can send a copy of a file along.

GaryBonaducci · Post by **GaryBonaducci** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:01 pm

I have submitted a trouble ticket with Support because I too have this problem. It appears to be a WAV tagging issue, whereby the tags added by Media Monkey get interpreted as audio data.

I have provided Support with two WAV files. The first file is an original WAV recording made from a vinyl LP using Adobe Soundbooth CS4. The second file is a copy of the first that was opened and tagged by Media Monkey and has the audible pop. Simply opening both files with a text editor reveals that the second file has text tags added at the very end of the file.

Hopefully, this will help the developers reach a fast solution. I would like to see a function that will remove tags entirely from WAV files. I don't need them because I use a tree structure and file names to identify what's in each WAV file. I also don't want the additional data there--It just makes the file even more longer. Does anyone know if a script already exists to remove WAV tags? I haven't been able to find one yet.

bkkmd · Post by **bkkmd** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:45 am

Is there any update from MM tech support regarding tagging issue yet?
I hope there is a solution soon.

GaryBonaducci · Post by **GaryBonaducci** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:50 pm

I haven't gotten a response yet on my trouble ticket, but it's only been a few days anyway. Probably a lot of effort right now is being put to getting Media Monkey to sync with the iPhone 3.0 OS, so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while....

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:22 pm

i can't help it the only place i seen that is on a show. and i keep thinking danny.

GaryBonaducci · Post by **GaryBonaducci** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:14 pm

LOL... My famous namesake brother..

BTW, Support has contacted me and they've started to look into this.

GaryBonaducci · Post by **GaryBonaducci** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:21 pm

Technical Service says the problem has been identified and will be resolved in the next build (1300). Unfortunately, WAV files that are already corrupted must be manually edited to remove the POP. Here's the link to the trouble ticket:

http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5873

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