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Re: MM5 is awful

by Lowlander » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:59 pm

MediaMonkey 5 is only tested and officially supported for Windows 10+, however you're more than welcome to capture the crash in a debug log (step 4b) and attach it to a Support Ticket: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86643

Re: MM5 is awful

by lynniemagoo » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:53 pm

Anyone else having this issue with Windows 7 32 bit?

I just tried installing the latest MediaMonkey_5.0.2.2531 as a portable installation to clean directory on Window 7 32 bit machine. Upon startup, the program HANGS and will not allow me to do anything.

I have to kill it from the Task Manager.

I have UAC active and previously was running an earlier version of MM5 so my Windows Firewall was already active.

Before you go and tell me that I'm running an unsupported (by Microsoft) version of Windows, please note that the previous MM5 version 5.0.1.2433 worked with no issues.

Re: MM5 is awful

by Dryst » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:50 am

My one suggestion is to save the versions you download. When new versions get released, you will find things broken. There is currently no way to revert back to a previous version. Save various versions in the event you do find something newly broken.

Re: MM5 is awful

by mikeyp » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:34 am

I do like the idea of running MM5 and MM4 side by side. I'm trying MM5 again because of this.

Last time I tried MM5 it crashed multiple times so I'm up for another run. :D

Re: MM5 is awful

by freedomfries323 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:04 pm

Having used 4 for a long time, I wouldn't say that this is an awful upgrade. It's lacking some things at the moment, but I've seen a lot of improvements and it's been stable for me.

Re: MM5 is awful

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:00 pm

MediaMonkey 5 is customizable and can be made to look similar to MediaMonkey 4: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... iaMonkey_4

Does playing the same song from a local drive instead of Google Drive improve the sound quality (ie. it only sounds bad when played from Google Drive)? Also which Build (Help > About) are you using?

MM5 is garbage. Just came here to say that!

by hetnon » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:54 pm

Who MM5 is made for? Definitely not for the MM4 user.

All those flashy designs and give me the very basic things back. It breaks all the time as well. Playing songs on Google drive feels like playing from an old scratchy CD.

Guys, scrap this is start it again, honestly!

Re: MM5 is awful

by Ludek » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:39 am

errolbest wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:00 am Lowlander.
It is the Playlist itself. Even in 'Party Mode', if you click on any of the column headings, the playlist is sorted and you lose the playlist. The only way I have found to correct it is to immediately click on another playlist and then return to the list you were playing. You will find that the list is back to its original setup.
Errol
Note that this does not lose the original order in the playlist until you save new order (which is not possible with this Party Mode settings).
Note that a quicker way to get the original order is just to press F5 to refresh.

Re: MM5 is awful

by errolbest » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:00 am

Lowlander.
It is the Playlist itself. Even in 'Party Mode', if you click on any of the column headings, the playlist is sorted and you lose the playlist. The only way I have found to correct it is to immediately click on another playlist and then return to the list you were playing. You will find that the list is back to its original setup.
Errol

Re: MM5 is awful

by Lowlander » Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:39 pm

The Playing or an actual Playlist? In the Playing you can do undo. With Playlists sorting isn't saved automatically.

Re: MM5 is awful

by errolbest » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:57 am

Peke, Lowlander and Ludek. Thanks for your input.
What you suggest stops most of the problems I have with people rearranging the playlist but, the one which occurs from time to time is when someone inadvertently clicks on the column heading. The playlist is sorted using this column and the playlist is then corrupted even using 'Party Mode'. I notice from other threads, other users have the same problem. I guess that I will have to live with the problem.
Errol

Re: MM5 is awful

by Peke » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:42 pm

Hi,
As you use MM for years, then you know how complex things can get and that there is multiple ways to do that.
That said here is my contribution to your problem solution.

2a) If you want to keep your playlists untouched Here is how I do that: Created Static playlist and named it "DO NOT TOUCH, OR....!!!" Then Under that playlist I create Sub playlist that I would like not to be changed, but also would like that I can change it. Then add tracks to that playlist in order I want. After that is done I create New Auto-Playlist, name it "!!!!SENIORS BALLROOM DANCE" -> As Criteria I select Playlist -> And select Previously created playlist as Criteria. They will not be able to change Playlist order and for next Senior ballroom session you can just select new one.

Re: MM5 is awful

by errolbest » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:27 pm

Thanks Ludek and Lowlander for that info. Will play around with that later today.
Cheers
Errol

Re: MM5 is awful

by Ludek » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:07 pm

1) see my post above for the skins with bigger player buttons

2) The lock is possible using Party Mode, see my post above for details.

Re: MM5 is awful

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:56 pm

1) Unskinned is no longer possible. So yes, the conclusion that you need to edit Skins themselves is correct. You can always request Skins here: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=101064

2) There is no lock for the Playing list, but there is undo: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... ying_queue allowing you to revert to before the change was made.
You can however use the Party Mode (Tools > Options > Party Mode for settings and View > Party Mode to enable) which allows you to lock down MediaMonkey.

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