Compactstick - the real successor of CD?

[Eyal]

http://www.compactstick.com



Does anybody tried one yet?
Some labels has started to ship music on this medium:

Some Psytrance labels already use that new format and will release for christmas some crazy massive albums.

[Lowlander]

I think online music is the real successor to the CD. SanDisk is also trying this format, but I don't think it will take off as downloading is more convenient for purchasing digital music than a memory card.

[Mizery_Made]

Lowlander has a point, downloading is a far superior method for digital music. Internet speeds are getting faster as time goes on, Hard Drives getting larger. The only thing this new format would offer is a compromise between completely digital and the CD format in that you have a digital version of the music, but still have something tangible to hold in your hand that is official. I prefer to have that tangible object, as it makes me feel I've actually bought something that exists. Digital Music doesn't always come with credits either, which bothers me, as I enjoy having writer or producer credits as well as some nice artwork to go with it. *Shrugs*

[Eyal]

You are right guys, download is the best and fastest way to buy music. But like Mizery_Made I prefer to have something tangible, the credits and the original artworks. I my case for Vibrasphere http://www.psyshop.com/shop/Sticks/tvr/tvr1cs022.html the compactstick is sold 5 US$ more than the CD. It contains 2 GB of data, the tracks in mp3 and waves, plus additional tracks (not avail on CD) and videos. That's attractive but I still like the CD better. Also, the CD will play in my car stereo, while a burned CD won't.

[rovingcowboy]

You are right guys, download is the best and fastest way to buy music. But like Mizery_Made I prefer to have something tangible, the credits and the original artworks. I my case for Vibrasphere http://www.psyshop.com/shop/Sticks/tvr/tvr1cs022.html the compactstick is sold 5 US$ more than the CD. It contains 2 GB of data, the tracks in mp3 and waves, plus additional tracks (not avail on CD) and videos. That's attractive but I still like the CD better. Also, the CD will play in my car stereo, while a burned CD won't.

a burned audio cd should play in your car's stereo.

but a burned data cd depends on the stereo manufacture supporting data cd's

[Eyal]

It's just an old radio-cd player that came with the car. No possibility to change it because it's integrated in the dashboard.
It dont like burned CDs, it may play fine for a minute then just skip and skip and stop for 5 seconds and retry and skip again. No matter what software I use or what speed I burn, it's doing the same.

[rovingcowboy]

your having trouble with it finding the split in the songs, if it is pre 2002 then you might be also having
trouble with the size of the cdroms you burn with. the older ones only seen 650 mb cdroms, their leaser light
could not move out to the end of the disk far enough to see any more then 650,mb's if you are burning audio disks
and having it skip songs that is more likely the reason, i had the same thing happen on cheap portable cd players.

they could see the whole 700 mb's but could not split the tracks if less then 2 seconds of space was between them.

and if the cd had more then 21 songs on it, then even 2 seconds was not enough for the cheap portable players back then to play all the songs. they would skip until they found a split they could see was a real split.

also you have trouble back then on the old cdrom players that some chemicals used on the burnable cd's were too think for the leaser light to get a proper read on the data, so it would not play them, make sure you buy the disks' that is recomended by your car's stereo disk player manufacture or barrow a few different makes of cdroms
from different friends that have burned audio cd's and see which one of theirs works, then buy that brand to burn yours on.

also since it is in a car, or truck, you might have dust in it, get a lens cleaner disk for the cdrom players and run it a time or two all it does is play like a cdrom but has a few small brushes placed on the disk in places that will
hit the lens as it goes around and brush off the dust.
some times that dust is sticky so a couple times to get it off the lens is needed, even more so if you smoke with the windows up. that smoke just sticks to everything and is bad for you as well as the computer equipment.

thats the only things i can remember that might cause your error in the car unit. and those are easy ones to do, not like removing it and adding in a new one.

[Eyal]

Your are right Cowboy. It's a 2001 model. I completely forgot about the 650MB thing. Thanks for make me remind it.
OK so to get back to the point, I have no trouble with manufactured CDs, so to avoid all this cleaning an manipulation process, I will continue to buy CDs instead of compactstick.

[rovingcowboy]

Your are right Cowboy. It's a 2001 model. I completely forgot about the 650MB thing. Thanks for make me remind it.
OK so to get back to the point, I have no trouble with manufactured CDs, so to avoid all this cleaning an manipulation process, I will continue to buy CDs instead of compactstick.

well the lens cleaning cd is a good idea anyway more so if you live in texas, it is dusty out in these here parts.

[Eyal]

well the lens cleaning cd is a good idea anyway more so if you live in texas, it is dusty out in these here parts.

No I don't live in Texas nor have trouble with dust.
The particularity here in Canada is the cold.

[Peke]

Then you may have issues with condensation inside CD Player which glue dust on player and as Original CDs have deeper cuts(burns) on CDs you do not have issues with them. You could try with different CD-R manufacturers (check the color of burn layer and see if Siver/gold layers are better). Like RC I also suggest that you do CD cleaning some have cleaning fluid to improve. But be warned that some cleaning CDs do not work with your CD players CD loader (as some are made for cd tray loader only).

[ReverendEntity]

Lowlander has a point, downloading is a far superior method for digital music. Internet speeds are getting faster as time goes on, Hard Drives getting larger. The only thing this new format would offer is a compromise between completely digital and the CD format in that you have a digital version of the music, but still have something tangible to hold in your hand that is official. I prefer to have that tangible object, as it makes me feel I've actually bought something that exists. Digital Music doesn't always come with credits either, which bothers me, as I enjoy having writer or producer credits as well as some nice artwork to go with it. *Shrugs*

Re-threading the thread...

I can go both ways on this one. I also like having a compact disc as a hard copy of a recording, especially considering the continual improvements in lossless encoding which will probably guarantee someday soon I'll need/want to re-encode all my MP3s to some other format like OGG or FLAC. Credits and artwork are also nice to have. However, going back to my comment on continual improvements, technology is growing by leaps and bounds. I think we're reaching a point at which you'll be able to poke a CS into your car stereo or portable media device and not only get high-quality lossless music, but also high-resolution artwork and all kinds of bonuses (extra tracks, videos, remixes, website links, etc.). Based on the design in the original photo, you wouldn't have to lose the print media either. You could have both a printed glossy booklet and a PDF version of the same (with embedded hotlinks).

This is kind of inspiring me while I talk about it. I would love to put out an album like this...I just don't know how long it would take me to produce. Hmmmm.