BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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captainmcl wrote:I have observed the same thing, although I have not tested it as thoroughly as DTSig. If the screen is off when playing in the car (via aux out), it stops after the song, but starts immediately upon button press. I'm on a Samsung Note, Android 2.3. It's as if the software is waiting to see if you're still there -- as soon as you show signs of life it dives right into the next song. (Seems like that could be a desired feature at times -- if it were by design!)
I'm beginning to think it is a batteries saving feature of samsung but why it starts up after some time if the device is not connected by a patch cord.? I have found out by other ways that samsung has admitted to a company that uses their phones, the error the company has is unfix able by samsung so they suggested replacing that model of phone, but i couldn't pry the name of the model from the informer, i think their company didn't want the embarrassment of them having bad phones so their name also was not given to me. The informer was also worried about their paycheck.

So i'm thinking maybe this is another issue samsung can not fix?
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I don't see this on the Samsung Galaxy Note (either with headphone out or internal speakers).
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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rovingcowboy wrote:
captainmcl wrote:I have observed the same thing, although I have not tested it as thoroughly as DTSig. If the screen is off when playing in the car (via aux out), it stops after the song, but starts immediately upon button press. I'm on a Samsung Note, Android 2.3. It's as if the software is waiting to see if you're still there -- as soon as you show signs of life it dives right into the next song. (Seems like that could be a desired feature at times -- if it were by design!)
I'm beginning to think it is a batteries saving feature of samsung but why it starts up after some time if the device is not connected by a patch cord.? I have found out by other ways that samsung has admitted to a company that uses their phones, the error the company has is unfix able by samsung so they suggested replacing that model of phone, but i couldn't pry the name of the model from the informer, i think their company didn't want the embarrassment of them having bad phones so their name also was not given to me. The informer was also worried about their paycheck.

So i'm thinking maybe this is another issue samsung can not fix?
RovingCowboy .. I would understand it *could be* a samsung issue .. ran into some with my Droid X. But if it doesn't happen with Winamp or with PlayerPro (though have had other oddities with this one) then it is hard to default the phone.

But when all is said and done ... stuff happens :D
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Just tossing mud on wall and hopefully a pebble will bounce out and land on the desk with an idea that triggers the correct reason. As there's got to be a logical cause for this. :-?
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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MMA Ver: build 100

I have uninstalled MMA, deleted all bits left by MMA uninstall (both phone mem and added card) then re-installed from Playstore (is it only me or is Playstore a really stupid name?).

I bring up the album "3 Doors Down" by .. well "3 Doors Down". I am not in the car this time but simply sitting with my phone by my computer (NOT connected). So far it has not Stopped playing but there are long pauses 3-5+ seconds between songs. The screen has timed out. The first time this happened (this install), it was at about 8 seconds that i pressed the button to bring the screen alive and the song did not start up. MMA showed the 'play' button as if someone had paused it.

Will report further findings ... but the pause problem does not seem to have been fixed.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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No its not just you it is a stupid name, it reminds me of kindergarten, play room sleep room jumping room painting room now they have computer room server room database room,

Did we ever get out of kindergarten?

As for the pausing i'm still getting it but i've come up with what i believe it is.
And that it is the lag time of mm gathering and decoding the song file in order to play it.

Thats the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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First ... the name Playstore ... some marketing guys idea of something cute and unique. to paraphrase an old saying, "Those that Can .. do. Those that Can't ... teach. And those that Can't Teach ... go into marketing" :lol: Just looked into the Win8 help section. I returned my Win8 machine and we will not purchase any new machines with it on it ... until MS comes to it senses. But noticed in that section using the new term "Charm". Oh my :D

Okay back to important things. As i mentioned earlier just installed etc. Notices 3-5 second lags. Phone has been playing now continuously since then (couple of hours?) in random/shuffle mode for all songs. The Lags are becoming more and more lengthly with a couple simply stopping until i press the button again. I have been playing freeform and in the car with the aux cable connected.

This really makes me sad as I would love to get rid of Winamp. Not that it does anything wrong but with a couple of fixes and enhancements MMA would be much better ... of course if it played :P

Edited: Developers, if you have a 'debug' version that can track what is really happening including time lapse etc ... if it is different from current beta-debug version I will be happy to run so you can get maybe a better insight on what is happening.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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i've just had the strangest thing happen on this pause stuff. it really finally stopped playing music for me on the lock screen? song was in middle of it and it just stopped?

what i found though is a bit strange.

i most the time start mediamonkey by the icon and play a playlist i made for sleeping this works all night, i do this and turn off the radio so i can test this mma.

how ever this time i just started the music by the play controls of the widget on the home screen and let it play the screen locked and keep playing so all was good.
then some time later it was silent i looked at the lockscreen and it was showing the play arrow not the pause button, i unlocked the screen and looked on the widget on the home page and it was showing the shuffle and the repeat buttons had been reset to off, and the music never restarted.

the only thing different in all my testing is that i started the music with the home screen widget instead of opening the app and picking a playlist., so the area has to be in the way mma checks the playlist to load songs when started from the widget as it already has the playlist it does not load any just play's from that current loaded list, but the screen locking and going to sleep has to be causing trouble with mma reading the playlist, or even more off the wall the temp cache is being dumped by the screen locking and going to sleep but that is only being troublesum to the homescreen widget and not the whole mma app.

thats what i can see on this issue as this is the only time it has ended a play session for me on my phone.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Getting the same pause-between-songs issue when the phone is 'sleeping' and plugged into an audio output. Samsung GS3. On Build 100 but has happened with previous builds.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I can't reproduce this issue - what I tried: On Galaxy S3, plugged in two different headphones (with and without remote control), started an album and left the phone playing while turning the screen off. There was no issue, playback continued for many tracks.

Any idea of specific steps to reproduce? Specific headphones?

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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For me it is not necessarily when using headphones but most noticeable in the car as that is where I use the phone the most to play music. My phone is plugged into the aux jack using a cable with mini to rca jack.

This problem might not start showing up after the first song but it will start shortly AFTER the screen times out.

Just as I started typing this I unplugged my phone from computer, started MM and started playing Aerosmith ... something to help speed up my typing :). The screen went blank part through the song then when the song went blank there was approx 15 seconds of nothing before the next song started.

After the second song, Big Mama Thornton-I'm Feeling Alright, there has been a 30+ (before typing this bit in) pause and still pausing. Neither of these songs have long intros/exits.

So after waiting another 30 seconds I pressed the button and MMA started playing again The Band-Jawbone. Another song with no lead-in.

So currently this has nothing to do with anything being plugged in.

Do you have a 'debug version' of mma that actually tracks everything that is happening including pause time that can be used to build a report for you? I would be happy to run same for you.

Note that I really have very few routines running on the phone that I have added, at least 'background' type routines.

Let me know if other information is needed
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Ok, just sent you more info over e-mail, so that we could continue there...

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I just wanted to confirm that I to am experiencing this problem. I have a SGS3 running Cyanogenmod Jellybean, and have also noticed that when I'm at the gym, and MMA is playing with the screen off, MMA will frequently STOP playing when transitioning to the next track. I too noticed that when I turn the phone on it will continue playing, but not always.

Hope this gets fixed!
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Note that the latest build (104) should resolve the issue. Let us know!

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I was having this error but have not had it since upgrading to the latest build. (Galaxy Note, Gingerbread)
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