MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
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Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
I confirm that 3162 still hangs on the splash screen, seems to hang more frequently now. always on first fire up, usually on second try as well. doug
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
Mine hasn't done it for a while but it did again yesterday. Force quit and restart and it worked OK.
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
Please capture this in a debug log (step 4b): viewtopic.php?t=86643
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Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
Unfortunately it's back for me, too.
At least for me, it does seem related to processes. When MM launches correctly, 4 processes start up (viewing Task Manager under the Details tab). When it freezes, only 3 processes start up, and then 2 will close after a few seconds and it will hang on the remaining process. If I select "End task" and relaunch, this will usually rinse/repeat. Also, rebooting Windows does not seem to affect this scenario (MM will sometimes freeze on launch right after a fresh boot).
However, I've found that once it's in a frozen state, if I launch a NEW instance of MM BEFORE ending the hung process, and THEN select "End process tree" on the hung item, the new instance of MM will start up all 4 processes and run as normal.
Oddly, I know if it's going to hang or not based on the splash screen; if the corners change from round to square, it just froze.
At least for me, it does seem related to processes. When MM launches correctly, 4 processes start up (viewing Task Manager under the Details tab). When it freezes, only 3 processes start up, and then 2 will close after a few seconds and it will hang on the remaining process. If I select "End task" and relaunch, this will usually rinse/repeat. Also, rebooting Windows does not seem to affect this scenario (MM will sometimes freeze on launch right after a fresh boot).
However, I've found that once it's in a frozen state, if I launch a NEW instance of MM BEFORE ending the hung process, and THEN select "End process tree" on the hung item, the new instance of MM will start up all 4 processes and run as normal.
Oddly, I know if it's going to hang or not based on the splash screen; if the corners change from round to square, it just froze.
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
On what build (Help > About)?
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Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
2024.2.0.3162
Sorry for delayed response. Problem still exists.
Sorry for delayed response. Problem still exists.
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
Please capture this in a debug log (step 4b): https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86643
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Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
I just installed (well tried to) today's (debug) release (3163) and found an interesting problem. As earlier reported, I too have had problems with hanging at the splash screen and have supplied numerous logs. In this instance, because I was installing a new version, I had not yet started DebugView – although I doubt that it would have provided any useful information <shrug>.
The installation proceeded as normal until it got around to trying to delete a number of the chrome-based DLLs. It suggested that I do so manually. I went ahead and tried to do so, but could not. I opened the Task Manager and found that MediaMonkey 2024 (which had not be started/used in four days) still had a few entries hanging around even though it was closed. Manually task ending these entries resolve the problem of installation. There has been some prior indication that this orphaning of background tasks might be related to the “hanging…” problem (although, in this case it does not seem to have enhanced the likelihood as I have not experienced the problem lately). Nevertheless, as of the previous version (3162) the “orphaning” issue remains.
The installation proceeded as normal until it got around to trying to delete a number of the chrome-based DLLs. It suggested that I do so manually. I went ahead and tried to do so, but could not. I opened the Task Manager and found that MediaMonkey 2024 (which had not be started/used in four days) still had a few entries hanging around even though it was closed. Manually task ending these entries resolve the problem of installation. There has been some prior indication that this orphaning of background tasks might be related to the “hanging…” problem (although, in this case it does not seem to have enhanced the likelihood as I have not experienced the problem lately). Nevertheless, as of the previous version (3162) the “orphaning” issue remains.
–Edgar
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sound system: Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK mixer, JBL Eon 15 G2 speakers as mains and mains subs, and JBL Eon610 mains with Tascam LF-S8 sub as near field monitors at the computer
64-bit Windows 10 MediaMonkey Lifetime Gold 3, 4 & beta5
Asus ASUS Prime X299-Deluxe motherboard
sound system: Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK mixer, JBL Eon 15 G2 speakers as mains and mains subs, and JBL Eon610 mains with Tascam LF-S8 sub as near field monitors at the computer
Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
It's weird that there have been leftovers even if you haven't started MediaMonkey yet,Nevertheless, as of the previous version (3162) the “orphaning” issue remains.
could you verify whether you haven't installed MediaMonkey as service in the past?
Options > Library > Media Sharing > [INSTALL AS SERVICE..] ?
Do you have [UNINSTALL SERVICE...] button there instead?
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Re: MM Hanging at splash screen [#21491]
Hey all,
Been following this thread closely—thanks to everyone for sharing detailed logs and updates. I was also facing similar splash screen hangs post v3107, especially on first launch. After updating to 3110, things seem noticeably smoother. Splash screen still lingers a bit longer than older builds, but no hard crashes so far.
Appreciate the devs jumping in and tracking this through Mantis. Fingers crossed the final RC nails it down completely. Will keep testing and report back if anything resurfaces.
Been following this thread closely—thanks to everyone for sharing detailed logs and updates. I was also facing similar splash screen hangs post v3107, especially on first launch. After updating to 3110, things seem noticeably smoother. Splash screen still lingers a bit longer than older builds, but no hard crashes so far.
Appreciate the devs jumping in and tracking this through Mantis. Fingers crossed the final RC nails it down completely. Will keep testing and report back if anything resurfaces.